Podcast · THINKING IT THROUGH with Jerome Danner Podcast

Episode 01 – Colin Kaepernick, Why Racism Still Exists, & Modesty

In this episode, I spend the entire time discussing 3 different issues dealing with Colin Kaepernick and his protest of the national anthem, why racism still exists, and modesty.  This is the first “official” episode but beware of the background noise.  I hope to get better at editing on down the line so those kinds of noises will not be bothering.  Please plop on down and listen and think through some issues with me.

ATTENTION:  The word – “nigger” – is used in this episode to make a point, but not to make light of the history of the word and not in a comical manner.

02:15 = Thinking through the issue of NFL Quarterback – Colin Kaepernick

23:30 = Thinking through a blog by Brandon Elrod on the continuing existence of racism

46:46 = Thinking through a blog on modesty and its benefits by Tina Wanis

“Why Racism Still Exists” – https://cross-sectionblog.com/2016/08/13/why-racism-still-exists/ – written by @brandonelrod

Modesty: It’s More Than What You Think It Is” – https://howtoreligion.wordpress.com/2016/08/14/modesty-its-more-than-what-you-think-it-is/ – written by @Tinawanis

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5 thoughts on “Episode 01 – Colin Kaepernick, Why Racism Still Exists, & Modesty

  1. (This comment is from a brother that I keep in touch with from Texas!)

    Just listened to this – you have a really great perspective that includes earnestness, balance, passion, truth and grace…just like Jesus I think. I’ll definitely be listening to more. I totally agree about the Colin Capernick debacle…it’s totally his right to sit out the song (I think it is even when he’s on the 49s and they don’t mandate it I think)…and it shouldn’t be a big deal. I think it’s a distraction/flavor of the week from real issues plaguing America like 20T debt. I think it’s okay for people to think he’s wrong and voice that opinion, but it shouldn’t be such a media juggernaut like it is.

    Good talk on the police and BLM. I can tell you from a white person’s perspective, the biggest issues/talking past each other happens like this:
    1. Racism means different things to white and black people. I agree with your definition of racism that you described in the podcast which was people who actually believe their race/skin color is intrinsically better. However, I think the people that actually think this in America are very very few. Like, maybe 1 million people at the most out of 350 million. I think what we see more common is prejudice (assumptions about a race because of the predominant CULTURE of said race).

    2. Racism to a white person = what your definition was in the podcast. I agree racism exists, but what we see more today (imho) is prejudice of cultures. (E.G. White culture vs black culture vs asian culture).

    Racism to most black people I’ve talked to is ‘unequal opportunities’ in America or ‘unequal results’ in America. White people go on the defense when the word ‘racism’ is thrown around willy nilly because we assume (wrongly most of the time) you are lumping us in with slave traders/white slave owners from Antebellum South. This need not be and we end up talking past each other because there is real conversation to have about the disparities black people have in America…and I think white people would be better (and should be better already) if the word ‘racism’ wasn’t thrown around, or at least carefully defined at the start to avoid unnecessary defensiveness.

    3. Also, I do think (and studies show this) that black people are treated in general, more hostile by police. I think this is because of the neighborhoods that are the most dangerous for police tend to be the big inner cities where blacks have lived and more dangerous, so cops are going to be more violent/aggressive in those places (rightly or wrongly i don’t know) than in places where you or i live. I may have a blind spot here- so I appreciate your perspective on this. A lot of my black friends who are just like me say they’ve been treated unfairly by cops and that has made me really re-think my position on this. I assume that if you just follow the cop’s orders when pulled over, things will go well…but maybe I am mistaken???

    I definitely would love to have these tough conversations with other brothers in Christ like you who can help me in my blind spots.

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  2. I think you made some great points, however I don’t agree with all that was said.
    1. I don’t view the white men that came over and stole this land as “my forefathers”
    2. Of course we are not oppressed in the same ways as our ancestors, but prejudices, and white supremacy exist in all facets of society that continue to give evidence that our people are oppressed. Ex: health care disparities, academic achievement gaps, the number of imprisoned black males as compared to their white counterparts, etc.

    -This is Kim by the way 🙂

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    1. Hey Kim!
      Thank you for taking time out of your day to listen to my thoughts. Thank you for sharing your disagreements as well.
      I can respect your point with #1, however, with #2, I think there is more to the issues that African Americans face when it comes to things like academic achievement gaps and the number of imprisoned black males than supposed white supremacy. I do not doubt that there are prejudices and racism in different parts of society, but the thing is that actual evidence must be shown. Not just someone’s feelings (and I am not meaning this as a slight toward you, your argument, or your feelings). Some of these issues come from the history of racism in our country, such as the breakdown of the African American family and not enough strong African American male role models. Also, there would have to be or there should be research done on why some African Americans have done well even coming from low economic status and why others do not succeed. I would suggest you look up Dr. Thomas Sowell. If you would ever like a link to his work or a video clip to watch, then please let me know.
      Thanks again!
      God bless!
      Jerome

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